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attacking their people. we should not have called the assad a reformer when he was turning guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, democracy and individual rights. we should not be imposing devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we equivocate on our values -- >> here -- >> it makes us more weak. it projects weakness. when we look weak, our adversaries are more willing to -- >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarky-- >> reporter: why's that so? >> that's not true. >> reporter: be specific. >> i will be very specific. the lect our embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number 1. so much for the embassy security piece. number 2, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement, panned by the media around the world. and this talk about this -- this weakness -- i don't understand what my friend's talking about here. this is a president who has gone out and done everything he has said he w

the mullas in iran were attacking their people. we should not have called assad a reformer when he was turning guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, democracy and individual rights and not be imposing these devastating defense cuts. because what that does, when we show -- when we look weak, our enemies are much more willing to test us. and our allies are -- >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of mularkey. >> why is that so? >> nothing he said is accurate. >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security. the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security peace. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement, which was panned by the media around the word. word. --world. and this talk about this weakness. i don't understand what my friend is talking about here. this is a president who has gone out and done everything he had said he was

assad goes, there will be a legitimate government that follows on. all of the loose talk of my friend, gov. romney and the congressman, about how we could do so much more. what more would they do other than put american boots on the ground? the last thing america needs is to get into in the ground war in the middle east requiring a hundred thousand american forces. they are the facts. every time the american -- every time the governor is asked about this, he goes up with a whole lot of the verbiage. when he gets pressed, he says he would not do anything different that we are doing now. are they proposing putting american troops until the ground? they should speak up and say so. that is not what they are saying. we are doing it exactly like we need to do to identify those forces who in fact will provide for stable government and not cause a regional suni shiite war when assad falls. >> nobody is proposing sending american troops to syria. we would not refer to asad as a reformer when he is killing his of civilians. we would not be outsourcing our foreign policy to the united nations gi

. it's working with the arab league to identify people to help force assad out of power a year after president obama said, we want assad out of power. he has substantive things to talk about on the debate stage when they debate foreign policy in two weeks and that ad is now irrelevant. >> don't you think this is a case of him saying, i'll do the things the president is trying to do but do them more effectively? >> there's a fair case to make and there's an opening for that. >> i agree. i'm not saying that's a bad thing. >> there's an opening the size of a pin drop. he didn't lay out his strategy for peace in israel. on iran, the best he could come up with was, i'm going to get tougher on iran because i'm going to have tougher sanctions. >> when barack obama came to office, he said, i'm not george w. bush, so therefore, i can negotiate with iran. >> he said he would open up all doors but he wasn't going to give you a seat at the table unless you wanted to come and talk peace. >> we have unsolicited advice on the other side of the break including helpful hints for donald trump. stay wi

the people who deserve the help so when assad goes there will be a legitimate government that follows on. and all of this loose talk of my friend governor romney and the congressman about how we could do so much more in there. what more would they do other than put american boots to the ground. the last thing america needs is to get in another ground war in the middle east requiring tens of thousands if not well over a hundred thousand american forces. they are the facts. they are the facts. now every time the governor has asked about this he doesn't say -- he goes off on a whole lot of verbiage but when he gets pressed, he says no he would not do anything different than we are doing now? are they proposing putting american troops on the ground? if they do they should speak up and say so. but that's not what they are saying. we are doing it exactly like we need to do to identify those forces who will provide for a stable government and not cause a regional war. >> congressman ryan? >> ryan: nobody is proposing to send american troops to syria. let me say it this way

of the opposition who share our values and ensure they obtain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks, helicopters and fighter jets. nbc's first read pointing out that reports of cia doing something covertly like this in syria. so something going on as we speak. the u.s. government did this with libya. basically arming the opposition. and you know, your men ri's men ri is only my friend for so long. is that a wise approach? >> no. i have spent time on this issue. there's no doubt providing nonlethal communication support is extraordinary important and secretary clinton announced massive amount of humanitarian assistance and ku dos to the administration for doing that. the real problem here is that there's this struggle within the romney campaign itself over syria between neo-conservatives to militarily intervene and those who actually are more reticent and the problem is that mr. romney flip flops between one group and the other and can't quite decide which one is more important. the bottom line, however, for purposes of american interest in the middle east, arming a rag tag group of

attacking their people. we should not have called bashar assad a reformer when he was turning his russian-provided guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we equivocate on our values, when we show -- >> am i going to get anything to say here? >> it projects weakness, when we look weak, our adversaries are able to attack us -- >> that's a bunch of mularkey. >> why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> be specific. >> i will. number one, this lecture on embassy security. the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador w killed, he was making a political statement, which was panned by the media around the world. and this talk about this weakness -- i don't understand what my friend's talking about. we -- this is a president who has g

not have called assad a reformer when he was turning russian provided guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, democracy and individual rights and not be imposing these devastating defense cuts. because what that does, when we show -- when we look weak, our enemies are much more willing to test us. and our allies are -- >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> why is that so? >> nothing he said is accurate. >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security. the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement, which was panned by the media around the world. and this talk about this weakness. i don't understand what my friend is talking about here. this is a president who has gone out and done everything he had said he was going to do. this is a guy who repaired our alliances so th

to identify the people who deserve the help so that when assad goes, and he will go, there will be a legitimate government that follows on, not an al qaeda-sponsored government that follows on. and all this loose talk of my friend, governor romney, and the congressman about how we are going to do -- we could do so much more in there. what more would they do other than put american boots on the ground? the last thing america needs is to get in another ground war in the middle east, requiring tens of thousands, if not well over 100,000 american forces. they are the facts. they are the facts. now, every time the governor is asked about this, he doesn't say anything -- he goes up with a whole lot of verbiage, but when he gets pressed, he says, no, he would not do anything different than we are doing now. are they proposing putting american troops on the ground? putting american aircraft in the airspace? is that what they're proposing? if they do, they should speak up and say so. but that's not what they're saying. we are doing it exactly like we need to do to identify th

and not call assad a reformer when he was turning guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, for democracy, for individual rights. we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does when we equivocate on our values, when we show we are slowing our defense, shows weakness. when we with weak, adversaries attack us and -- biden: with all do respect. that's a bunch of molarky. nothing you said is accurate. >> moderator: be specific. biden: i will be very specific. number of one, the lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut the budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew our ambassador was killed was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world, and this talk about this -- this weakness, i don't understand what my phren's talking about here. this is a president who went out and has done everything he said he was going to do, a guy who repaired alliances so the rest of the wor

access into the syrian president bashar al assad's inner circle. a one-time insider sits down with cnn, admits covering up crimes and so much more. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> this just coming into "the situation room" as we await our interview with mitt romney, we have brands new poll numbers from one of the most crucial battleground states in the country certainly on the cnn electoral college map, ohio. both presidential candidates will be there today. and look at this. romney's catching up dramatically. president obama's still ahead 51% to 47%. but his four-point lead falls now within the poll's sampling error. the president had a nine-point lead in our most recent poll of polls in ohio, which was completed just before last week's presidential debate in denver. our chief national correspondent john king is joining us from the state capital of columbus right now. john, you're taking a closer look at the new numbers in this ohio poll. what are you seeing? >> reporter: wolf, if you had any doubt the first debate gave governor romney a significant meaningful bo

called bashar assad a reformer when he was turning his russian-provided guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does when we equivocate on our values, it makes us more weak. it projects weakness, and when we look weak, our adversaries are much more willing to test us, and our allies -- biden: with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> moderator: and why is that so? biden: not a single thing he said was accurate. >> moderator: be specific. biden: i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut security by $300 million below what we asked for, number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney -- before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. and this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend's talking about here. we -- this is a presi

children, all of them were killed when a rocket landed on his house. >> to live is to die. bashar al-assad is a daunting task. you will die wherever you go. they say foreign aid is being provided, but we see nothing. just let us die and get it over with. >> aleppo has become the defining battle in this civil war. neither side can afford to lose, but in truth, neither is winning. what does seem to be happening is the slow, painful death of syria. >> aiding the rebels in syria was one of many issues which mitt romney touchdown during a foreign policy speech in virginia today. charging the obama administration is sitting on the sidelines, he did not offer specifics, but laid out this policy. >> in syria, i will work with our partners to organize those members of the opposition who share our values. they obtained the arms they need to defeat the tanks and helicopters and fighter jets. >> mitt romney in virginia today. for more on what he had to say and how foreign policy is playing his campaign, i am joined by our foreign policy correspondent. thank you for coming in. how would president romne

the people that deserve the help so that when assad goes, there will be a legitimate government that follows on, not be al qaeda sponsored government. all of this loose talk about how we are going to do, we can do so much more in there. what more would they do other than put american boots on the ground? the last thing america needs is to get another ground war in the middle east requiring tens of thousands if not well over 100,000 american forces. they are the facts. they are the facts. when the governor is asked about this, he goes up with a lot of verbage, but pressed, he says we are not doing anything different than we are now. are they proposing putting american aircraft in the air space? if so, they should speak up and say so. but that is not what they are saying. we are doing it exactly like we need to do to identify those forces that will provide for a stable government and not cause a regional sunni-shia war. >> nobody is proposing to send troops to syria. american troops. how will we do things differently? we would not refer to assad as a reformer when he is killing his own civilia

to do with something he said about bashar assad and this administration's reaction. i want to play that and get your thoughts. >> we should have spoken out right away when the green revolution was up and starting, when the mullahs in iran were attacking their people. we should not have called bashar assad a reformer when turning russian-provided guns on their own people. jon: the associated press did a fact check and said that nobody in the administration called bashar assad a reformer. >> that is inaccurate. that is inaccurate. hillary clinton, hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. the main foreign policy point to take away from last night's debate was the fact that vice president biden continues to mislead the american people what happened in benghazi. we saw sworn testimony this week that said the state department officials in benghazi had requested extra security. last night vice president biden said that was not true. they had not heard that. when the first attacks were made, the administration went out and said that

that is insufficient to paul ryan and here's a mon taj of how that sounded. >> we wouldn't refer to bashar assad as a reformer. we're not projecting weakness abroad. we shouldn't have called bashar assad a reformer. this invites weakness. >> the bashar assad a reformer. that was his only line on syria policy. largely was rhetoric kalt. now when you talk the three hot spots in the world, not necessarily in the entire world, which is iran, the war in afghanistan and syria, there wasn't as far as i can tell any policy disagreement that they were leveling. take a look. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >> thank hechks we had these sanctions in place. >> what more would they do other than put american boots to the ground. >> nobody is proposing to send troops to syria. >> we are leaving in 2014, period. >> we agree with the administration on their 2014 transition. >> michael, what did you make of this? >> when i saw paul ryan talk about afghanistan, it was like watching bambi on ice. it's like he had a boy scout capping p trip there once and saw the mountains and

where more than 30,000 men, women and children have been massacred by assad regime over the past 20 months. violent extremists are flowing into the fight. our ally turkey has been attacked and the conflict threatens stability in the region. america can take pride in the blows that our military and intelligence professionals have inflicted on al qaeda in pakistan and afghanistan including the kill of usama bin laden. these are real achievements won at a high cost. al qaeda remains a strong force however in yemen and somalia, in libya, and other parts of north africa, in iraq and now in syria and other extremists have gained ground across the region. drones and modern instruments of war are important tools in our fight but they are no substitute for a national security strategy for the middle east. the president is fond of saying that the tide of war is receding and i want to believe him as much as anyone else but when we look at the middle east today, with iran closer than ever to nuclear weapons capability, with the conflict in syria threatening to destablize the region and with vio

of arming the syrians, finding those syrian moderates, those pro-western rebels fighting bashar al assad, that may be a new strategy on the part of romney as opposed to the obama administration which has been totally reluctant to arm any of the rebels in syria fearing those weapons could wind up in the hands of the so-called terrorist, the bad guys, if you will. that's a clear differentiation, but i think from the american political perspective, there's no great desire to get involved militarily on the ground or in the air for that matter in syria or elsewhere. >> all right. well, thank you very much. appreciate it. of course, we're fwog bring in fareed zakaria to talk about this. fareed in new york. of course, you were watching this as well, and one of the points that you brought up is that these two leaders, these two men really see eye to eye on a lot of foreign policy issues. the only one that we really heard that was different was what you had actually talked about and that was romney's stance on arming the syrian rebels. how does the united states go about doing that, because we kn

that they obtain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks and helicopters and fighter jets. iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for him. we should be working no less vigorously through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran, whether sitting on the sidelines. it is essential that we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. >> mitt romney is saying, arm the rebels. again, the question being how well do we know them, how do we know which rebels we should be arming, that's the question for you. >> the wording there is interesting. he's not saying i believe the united states should arm the rebels, he's saying we want to make sure that they obtain rebels with the help of our partners and some would argue, look, the vetting of these rebel groups is being done already by the obama administration. there are reports of a cia presence there at the border already trying to figure out who is who, who is friendly who is not s

who share our values and assure they attain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks, helicopters and fighter jets. >> hey, peter, you were with him all weekend and we did see a decision by the romney campaign to include in the governor's stump more personal stories. of just ways that he worked with members of for instance of his community in boston. >> yeah, i think that's right. three times in all of the events held in florida. obviously as our viewers have seen, he has largely resisted this as a democrat would say. here though, it seems like there's a genuine sense of confidence, a reinvigorated campaign. you experience that when you talk to the crowds as well. it appears to be contagious to the candidate himself. in the past, we saw crowds that were largely anti obama more than pro romney. after the debate performance, they appear to be behind mitt romney and that seems to be fuelling him giving him more confidence to tell his own story. >> mr. alexander, we'll see you on the trail. thank you, sir. >>> well, mitt romney is hoping to amplify his criticisms of the administration

of the syrian president bashar assad, turkey flip support to the rebels. and now provides a safehane for fighters. >> -- safe haven for fighter fighters. the wail of ambulances signals more wounded rebels coming from life-saving treatment in turkey. much of the ammunition and weapons use in the rebel street to street combat comes across the same border, flowing in to syria. unverifiable amateur video shows the civil war intensifying. with rebels celebrating capture of syrian army checkpoint and commandeering armored personnel carrier. what the larger battle comes increasing death toll. estimated 200 in the past two days. the international community is reluctant to intervene militarily in the syrian civil war but the artillery exchanges between syria and turkey could easily escalate to a regional war. bringing in nato. but it may not end there. as the syrian regime enjoyed uncontinue support from russia and iran. bret? >> bret: leland vittert in our middle east newsroom. thank you. >>> up next, why is the number 716 billion so importantbe in this presidential race? later, the small b

outcome, so we are working very hard with the rebel forces and clearly as the president said, assad's days are over and they will eventually come to an end so we need to be ready to support those, provide as much support to the moderate forces as they can in the interim. i do want to, if i can, just say one thing about dov's comments about iran which are related to this issue. he does set up a strawman about the sanctions on iran and the 20 countries that have gotten off the hook. i think it's interesting to note that it does really matter. they ain't iran sanctions as a critical piece of legislation in the '90s to punish iran and for those who supported sip put petroleum. zero companies for sanctions under the iran sanctions act, zero. when the president came to office he very aggressively moved on sanctions to the existing authorities and he then worked with the congress almost immediately to sign a new comprehensive piece of legislation, of which multiple companies across the world including chinese companies and russian companies had sanctions. the 20 exemptions that dov likes to talk

repression in a rule over its whole period of governance. it has shown it has shown once again as assad's father did, now there are foreign fighters there are so-called jihadis that are coming to the country from rareas areas in the midst of the turmoil but by and large, and i was there a couple of week ago, i met with rep seb tis of and they are all vowing that it is, it is prop gan gada from the syrian government to suggest these are all al qaeda fighters and not in fact completely demoralized and, and now turning to violent citizens of the syrian, the republic. margaret is in kansas on democrat's line. hi, margaret. >> caller: good morning. i have been watching this with extreme unbelievable upsetness. it gets so little coverage. we have some coverage until, you know, journalists are getting killed then i have to watch bbc. i mean, it is ridiculous what is on our news. so i wrote a short poem, i will read it to "crimes against humanity: sins of omission delay and humanitarian rescues, body counts, mine count, witness to extreme suffering, leadership needed, if not indeed, in words,

it is the pivotal moment and an opportunity to really get iran by getting assad. >> so, mike, we have heard this morning from politico that ann romney and tagg romney, great guy, by the way, starting to exert their influence and basically saying, hey, dad. move to the middle. we've seen you move to the middle on taxes saying, okay, i'm not going to cut taxes in a way that's going to raise the deficit. that's my rule. it's a hard, fast rule. he moved to the center on bipartisanship, on israel. i guess the question is, does that make him a more electable? i think it does. or does that make him the etch-a-sketch candidate? what's your read? >> well, i think that in addition to ann romney and his sons, i think there is an extended romney family within the campaign. people who have been with him throughout his career in politics. dating back to when he was governor of massachusetts. and i think they have been clambering for mitt romney to be more mitt romney than this right-wing creation we saw during the primaries, and i think they probably had a family conference at which point they thought, l

, assad does need to go. we need to work with moderates in opposition and provide them with military hardware and support financially so they can do battle. the citizens there, they are being slaughtered by the thousands. when it comes to libya, i thought what happened there is unacceptable. i thought the handling of it was unacceptable. we need to have a full and immediate investigation to make sure we find out what happened. more importantly, iran, my opponents said earlier we need a nuanced approach. there is no such thing. there is only one person who will stand with israel. >> another 30 seconds. >> i have three older brothers, all of whom served in the military. my oldest brother was career military. he served in vietnam. i have some sense of not only how tough and capable they are. that is why i believe the best we can do for our military is be very careful and thoughtful about when we ask them to go to war. we need to have clear objectives. we need to know what our plan is and how we plan to get out. >> you can take up to 40. >> we have the greatest fighting force in the hist

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